I’ve grown up, like many Southerners and Appalachians, being told I was Native American. There was no myth of a “Cherokee princess” in my family, on either side. That was NEVER our story. Our story was one of a people who had gone underground to hide their true identities and it came through my grandma, Sally Rogers Franklin (Pabilo). My other Granny always told me that she had “Indian” ancestry but she didn’t believe it was Cherokee. The term Blackfoot got tossed around a lot, but I couldn’t figure that one because I learned in school that Blackfoot lived far away from here, like up in Montana. Later, I discovered that her family origins were intertwined with Melungeons, who are intertwined with the Eastern Siouan tribes.
The tall man in the hat is my maternal grandfather. He had strong British lines. The lady in pink is my maternal grandmother. She was descended from Wallens, Collins [of Hawkins County, TN), Leaches, Sizemores, Gibsons and others who go back to Russell, Clinton and Wayne Counties and even future back to Tennesee and North Carolina. Granny’s family had several Melungeon lines that seemed to culminate when her parents married. The man in white is my dad and my mom is partially out of the photo.
As some of you know, this past summer I had an autosomal DNA test done, but unlike some people, I couldn’t just take it at face value and simply say I was such and such a percentage of this and that and then let it go. I knew genetics had to be more complicated than that, so I did what I always do, dug deeper. I was introduced to GEDmatch.com, which is a cool site that lets you break down DNA results. It’s a bit technical but to me, it’s worth the challenge to uncover more than just the “estimation” that you get with your DNA results. It could be a genealogist’s dear friend.
Now, like most folks whose family has lived in the Southeastern U.S. since before George Washington first soiled his diapers, I had a big old chunk of British Isles. 45% at first glance, but the percentages from 23andMe are only estimations and there is a wide range that allows the percentage to possibly be a lot more or a lot less. But for now, let’s just leave roughly half my DNA with the British Isles and talk about the rest of me, that other 55%, give or take a few numbers, depending on which company you ask and what calculator you use.
I did not get a report back from a genetic testing company saying, “You are ____% (specific kind) of Native American.” Wouldn’t that be nice? But that’s not the way your results come back from AncestryDNA or 23andMe. But what you do get that’s cool is your raw data which you can take to a third party calculator. Please remember that so far the DNA companies are HEAVILY weighted toward European results and it doesn’t break it down by ethnic group, only by regions. My 23andMe did show a small percentage of Native American DNA, but not as much as it should have been according to my paper documentation. Also, remember that the absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence. For example, if your documented family history shows that your great-great-grandmother was Samoan but your DNA test doesn’t show Somoan, that doesn’t mean you’re not of Samoan descent or that you don’t have a Samoan heritage. It just means that your DNA doesn’t show it. It also means you might have inherited a different 50% of the Somoan-descended parent’s DNA. Do you still have the right to claim Samoan heritage and be a part of the culture that your parent was a part of? Sure you do.
So, I sat down and asked myself, “What do I KNOW about my heritage?” Well, I know that maternal grandfather’s family was mostly the British Isles and her neighbor, Normandy. So, I should expect at least 45% percent British Isles because they’re scattered throughout every family line and on every side of any family who has been in Appalachia as long as mine has. I know that my father’s maternal ancestors were English on one side and on the other side were documented French/German-Moravians who lived among the Cherokee and traveled here along with soldiers who had been sent to guard Moravian Town and that the soldiers belonged to the Rogers family and that some of them are documented as having Cherokee wives.
My very handsome father. My gorgeous and camera-shy mother.
I know that my dad’s paternal grandmother is listed in the 1900 censuses as being mulatto and that she changed her name four times. I know that my paternal great-great-grandfather came from Gila River. I know that he called himself a Spanish Indian. I know that my mother’s mother’s family dates back to known Melungeon families on at least three sides. So, what should I expect to see in my DNA beyond the obvious British Isles? Well, I should expect to see some Iberian, maybe some Mediterranean, maybe some Scandinavian (Normandy was populated by Scandanavians) and possibly some African and I should expect to see some Native American, right? Well, I did see all of these things in varying percentages, but when I dug deeper, I saw much more and that’s when things got fascinating.
My Iberian/Native American great-great-grandfather.My Paternal Grandparents. Sorry, it’s hard to see. My grandfather is the one holding the child and my grandmother, Sally Rogers, is the one in white socks. They didn’t have a lot of photos made. The two dressed funny are my uncles. I think it was Halloween or something and they dressed up silly for the photo. T
Let’s get back to the GEDmatch.com site. Now, it’s true that different calculators will give you different results because they’re geared toward finding different things and they will each give you different percentages, but I’m not looking for iron-clad percentages, I’m looking for a continuity of population references that consistently turn up and lend clues to an overall bigger picture; some of those that keep turning up for me, which made me start asking questions are: Samoyedic, Melanesian, Austronesian, Arctic_Amerindian (specifically Inuit and Beringian), Altaic (Indo-Tibetan), Amerindian, Meso-American Indian (sometimes shows up), and South-American Indian. Now, granted, each one of these is in small doses, individually, but when added together do they indicate something else? My first response was Samo-what? So, I began to research and found out about these awesome folks who have made the Russian Tundra their home.
(Isn’t this family beautiful?)
Then I wanted to know how an Appalachian Foothills gal, like me, with absolutely no recorded origins in Siberia could possibly have Samoyedic DNA?
And what about the Melanesian and Austronesian? How could I have THAT?! And let’s not forget the traces of Meso-American and South American, specifically a group of people called Botocudo (Oceanic people)? To answer my questions, I’ve been researching.
Melanesian Child (I just think this little guy is adorable) www. quora.com
Austronesian Girl (wn.com)
Botocuda, Native Brazilian.
Let’s tie it all together with a link to some interesting articles.
So, it appears that all these references to Melanesian, Austronesian, Siberian, Altaic (Indo-Tibetan) and Oceanic are just further indicators that my family’s stories about Native American heritage are true and that my documented familial lines are on the right track. One thing that was surprising to me was that I had a slice of India show up in my chromosome paintings on Gedmatch and in some of the calculators. Now, knowing which calculator to use is a whole other post! In addition to the slice of India/Pakistan showing up, there were strong indications of significant heritage from Eastern Europe (again, when does it become Western Asia?) I don’t think the India/Eastern Europe (mine seems to center around present-day Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Western Russia and Romania) thing is related to being Native American or Melungeon, but I do know that the British Isles and other European countries sent their Gypsies to the New World to get rid of them so that is a possibility.
Then again, it could be that my father’s Moravian ancestors actually were from Moravia first before ending up in France and that many Moravian and Bohemian people have traces of Romani in their DNA. I also had a lot of Basque showing up in the Iberian portions, but I do know that many of the men who traveled with the Conquistadors were of Basque origin, but it was researching the DNA results that led me to discover that fact. It makes sense that I would have Basque because my great-great-grandfather was a mestizo. Romani? Basque? Who knows for sure? Another interesting thing is that my maternal haplogroup is highest among the Basque and Tuareg peoples of Northern Africa. Now, that’s strange because my mom has NO documented Iberian descent. She does have Melungeon. I think I should consider doing a mitochondrial test in the near future because this intrigues me.
Whatever the case, when I look in the mirror, sometimes, I see a little bit of Spain peeking back at me and sometimes, I see a taste of Bohemia and Romania, and I see a Celtic gal, a Pict, with ties to Lands End and ancient France, and now…yeah, I can see Samoyedic and Austronesian traces, but I always see one who loves the Earth and her Creator, who sees the beauty in all of Earth’s people, who longs to be Spirit-led and see with spirit eyes. I belong to my ancestors and to my descendants, to the Creator and to the Earth. I don’t need anyone to tell me who I am, but it is fun to discover all the pathways my ancestors traveled. I do not believe in accidents. I was meant to be and so were you.
And this is ME!
21 thoughts on “Samo…Say What? Musings on a Melungeon’s DNA Results”
I love it, every bit!
If I ever need a private investigator, I now know where to find one.
Haha…Thank you, Billy. That’s one of the best compliments ever!
My family got Melanesian too, and we believe it to come from a side of our family from Eastern Tennessee with possibly Native American roots. It’s so cool when I find articles like this since Melanesian is such a rare result, and hard to find a lot of people who have it, but since there’s so little admixture, even with Polynesia, as they’re all island people, and each population is pretty isolated, it’s like where is this coming from?? But I find it pretty amazing that every time I do find somebody else who got this result, they almost all seem to have the same story and geographic family background, usually from Tennessee or nearby area with some suspected Native American roots, but usually not much else is known, and then get little to no Native American DNA results, but get totally blind-sided by a Melanesian result instead. I have also read those 2015 studies, and after seeing that, I am pretty much convinced that somehow those Melanesian islanders got to Tennessee way back when. I mean, why else would Melanesian DNA constantly be popping up in people whose families come from Tennessee? Great article, thanks for sharing!
I agree, Elle. There seems to be a correlation between traces of Melanesian and tales of NA ancestry. I believe, more and more, that the peoples of this world are far more similar than once believed.
Maybe we (Appalachian Melanesians) should compare our kit #s together on gedmatch. And see if someone can come up with correlations?
That’s a really good idea.
Thank you Darlene!
Great article and I love your final paragraph. Thanks for sharing with us!
I have about the exact same ethnicity as you. And a similar spiritual drive,
I have no known connection with melungeon other than being from East Tennessee.
I have not been able to figure out why a certain percentage of us who’s ancestors have been in the hills of Appalachia have Melanesian. I have yet to see a geneticist or historian recognize this anomaly or theorize on it.
Hi, I have 12,% Italy Greece, 9% Iberian Peninsula, 5% Ashkenazi Jew, and I also have Melanesian, has anyone found documentation of Melanesians being brought to rural Appalachia?
Hi Timothy, just doing my DNA test I have found many distant relatives contain Melanesian and Polynesian both.
I’m wondering when slave trade ended if they some how imported Black Birded Melanesians to the US. I found one interesting article where a woman traced an ancestor to a Melanesian woman brought to the Caroline’s, but she never went into any detail about it. One of my ancestors was a maid, one of the censuses claimed her birth place was Australia, then that changed to Austria this was the mid 1800’s. She could have been mixed Aboriginal possibly? Or it was a simple mistake? Who knows.
Hi my family is Appalachian and I also have Melanesian, if you are interested my Gedmatch kit number is A003489. I’m extremely puzzled about this.
I know what you mean, Timothy Heath. I’ve been doing quite a bit of reading since I posted this article, but yet have to come up with definitive answers. One thing I have become more and more convinced of though is that the ethnicity portion of genetic testing is still in the trial and error stages and they don’t always get it right. One book that I’ve been reading is called CHEROKEE DNA STUDIES: REAL PEOPLE WHO PROVED THE GENETICISTS WRONG. I’ve also been delving into history a lot lately and it is mind-blowing how much deeper and more complex people’s history is compared to what we were all taught in school.
I have also been rethinking my view of history. And how there is rarely a clear right and wrong ethnic or social group.
Some individuals don’t get along because they are too much alike and live in constant stressful competition.
Then where groups with radically different moral and cultural differences, those groups may be attracted to live together in harmony for a time but are eventually going to face fatal conflict.
Brazil and USA probably have the most dna diverse integration in a population currently. And a country like japan or North Korea have very little.
I kind of think both of these extremes are doomed to repeat the past, more quickly than a “moderately integrated” society.
I’m so glad I stumbled upon you all, I’m also a descendant on all sides of my family from rural Appalachia, East Tennessee, West Virginia, SW Virginia and North Carolina. I also have Melanesian DNA. I’m extremely curious to how I managed to get this DNA and many people linked to me (9 that I can remember) have Melanesian and some Polynesian mix I do have a Gedmatch kit A003489 I would really like to solve this mystery.
Hi Kat, https://www.facebook.com/637999343241275/posts/638776596496883/
Here is a comparison between you and I. From what I understand some “experts “ say that some our ancestors were taken by Muslim pirates from Melanesia and brought to America to be sold as slaves.
The other possibility especially considering the Asian coastline prevalence is Asian, Polynesian, mekenesian people intentionally or accidentally made it to America and became Indians and we are those decendants.
Thanks so much, Tim. This is a really good explanation and quite feasible.
Yeah, these databases are messy. And I have been interested in archeological ancestry as well. Having no ancestors that have set foot in in America since Leif Erikson, I have 2% Amerindian, and of course significant Altaic, South Asian and South Indian. With hits on Rathlin1, Clovis, Ust-Ishim and so on, direct maternal lineage of Amerindian is supposed still in Iceland. Makes one wonder if it was a matter of souls, choosing war and leaving. Whether they would have stayed if not, and well, always been Q in Scandinavia. But yeah, would like to know which Amerindian tribe that was, and is likely a big data problems that will be answered eventually. Carvings of boats and Reindeer as seen in Norway share similarity with those found in Azerbaijan, something discussed by Thor Heyerdahl, but controversial.
Would just then point out that Amerindian, if you have Icelandic or Nordic ancestry could be false positives. Similar to a paper in Nature on genetic makeup of Norway, where adopted Korean’s had to be corrected for as false positives for Sapmi; biology is a mess. Should certainly be possible to work out exactly where this crosses with Vikings. There are many things involved that comes with confirmation basis making matters worse, which involve German ideas about Vikings. And seemingly including Ashkenazi, as this is extremely unlikely for me, where Amerindian isn’t.
Thank you very much. The similarities between the Indigenous People of Siberia and Native Americans is striking. And you are right. The data bases are messy. Paper trails are still priceless as far as tracing our heritage goes. I think these tests can give us clues and hints but it’s the paper trails that tell us most. However, having said that, I did further DNA testing after this article was published and have come to the conclusion that these companies are lacking in samples of Native American DNA and that their samples are of modern populations rather than those existing 500 years ago. Still, they can offer some insights. I will try to do an updated post soon on this topic and discuss some of the newer revelations I’ve had since 2017. Thank you immensely for bringing this post to the forefront and fueling me to post again soon on this topic.